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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:17 am 
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Hi,

http://spectmorph.org/downloads/

I would like to use this SpectMorph software, I have a Linux pc 64-bit with Ubuntu, but...
I tried to install but there didn't happen very much in a normal way (like I think should).
Probably there must be done some 'make' and 'make install', yeah Linux...
(Why can't they make it simple, so that it can be used as on XP 32-bit, still my daily used pc ?)

Can somebody explain exactly what I need to do and use to handle this 'make'-process, or otherwhise compile the things (vst etc.)
I realy don't understand this way of working. What do I need ... xenial ... bionic ...
Linux ... aaarrrrgggghhh; yeah sorry but I ...
Is it my old age ?

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https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo

There are also lots of helpful YouTube videos on how to compile with make.


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Thanks I'll check it.
Still I don't know what package I'll need, as it shows amd_... and I'm on Intel (there site is down now in the morning...)

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Type "lsb_release -a" in your terminal and you will see which Ubuntu you have installed. Then download amd64 for a 64 Bit Linux or 386 for a 32 bit Linux and install it with a double click.
If you are not sure about the bittiness, type "uname -m" in your terminal. An output of "x86_64" means you have installed a 64 bit Linux.

If you want to compile from source you normally find all important information in the README file in the source directory.

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(Why can't they make it simple, so that it can be used as on XP 32-bit, still my daily used pc ?)

:shock: Are you serious? Format C that god damn zombie.

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NicTheQuick wrote:
Joris wrote:
(Why can't they make it simple, so that it can be used as on XP 32-bit, still my daily used pc ?)

:shock: Are you serious? Format C that god damn zombie.
NicTheQuick, yes I'm serious.
I found out : Ubuntu xenial 64bit is in use here, but ...
Then I followed the instructions in the link Mistrel gave me, but I stop because the explanation is (like many times) unique and the files I get are not what should be needed.
I'm quit a beginner on Linux... and yeah indeed for years, just because every explanation you can find is mostly unique, either for the Linux-version and otherwhise for the software itself. Only a specialist can get further on those 'how to's', as after a few lines they always start with a bunch of descriptions...
Aachhhh I absolute don't wont ...
Yeah, sorry but after so many years I don't wont to spend hours, just to install one thing.

Still, thanks for the effort.

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Joris wrote:
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Joris wrote:
(Why can't they make it simple, so that it can be used as on XP 32-bit, still my daily used pc ?)

:shock: Are you serious? Format C that god damn zombie.
NicTheQuick, yes I'm serious.
I found out : Ubuntu xenial 64bit is in use here, but ...


The binary packages for xenial and bionic are >>HERE<<. It's rare that binary install packages are offered, but for xenial, you are lucky. It's the download area of the creators webpage - but it seems you also need to download other (instrument?) files, to use it.

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Generally on linux you unpack the source, cd to the directory and type in
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make
make install


the make install is usually optional.
and if you need to get additional packages you can usually just get them with
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That is exactly what is described in the README I linked above:
Code:
   1 Compiling SpectMorph:
   2 =====================
   3
   4 To compile SpectMorph, the usual
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   6     ./configure
   7     make
   8     make install
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  10 needs to be used.

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I didn't see the weadme wink sorry :wink:


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Ok, I'll start again :
Doing a "lsb_release -a" on my system, I get :
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 16.04.5 LTS
Release: 16.04
Codename: xenial
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uname -m
x86_64


Because of that, I download xenial SpectMorph 0.4.0 for Ubuntu 16.04 - 64bit.
I get message "You have choosen to open SpectMorph 0.4.0_amd64.deb" yeah clear...
I choose save (as install neither did work or gave any result of a working binary).
If I open that there is no config file neither a readme, just a debian binary and two maps.
In my opinion it is ment for Debian (not Ubuntu) on a AMD processor.
So...

Thanks for the effort people, but ... to me ... simple is not like this.

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amd64 does not mean AMD processor.
A DEB package is a ready to install. You should not have to read any READMEs or compile something by yourself.
Ubuntu is one of many subdistributions of Debian Linux. In most cases it is fully compatible.

I also use Ubuntu 16.04 (xenial). When I download the file "SpectMorph 0.4.0 for Ubuntu 16.04 - 64bit" I can open it with my software center and click install and it's done. I don't know what you mean with the "two maps".

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NicTheQuick wrote:
[I also use Ubuntu 16.04 (xenial). When I download the file "SpectMorph 0.4.0 for Ubuntu 16.04 - 64bit" I can open it with my software center and click install and it's done. I don't know what you mean with the "two maps".

If install it the way you did now, which I already did more times before, I don't get anything of which should appear somewhere. No icon, no extra software shown in the 'software-manager', no vst found with Audaccity or other audio:software...

So, do you have anything extra after your installation that should run as being SpectMorph ?
(the program itself not the soundfiles)
If ,ŵhere is it being installed ?

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Not all developers decide to add program icons or starter files. I have not installed jack at the moment, because it is very complicated to set up correctly in the beginning, but it is necessary for SpectMorph to work. On their website you can find all information you need in my opinion. Look at the tutorial section.

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Jack is/was installed already here (as part of Ubuntu-Studio)...
At least I learned one thing "Ubuntu is one of many subdistributions of Debian Linux. In most cases it is fully compatible." ;-)

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I don't understand what the problem is. The installation is very simple.

I just tried it on a freshly installed Ubuntu Studio (Xenial Xerus 16.04.5 LTS 64-bit) and recorded the installation:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cj1v88n6ndltoaw/Video.mp4?dl=0

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