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Why in german B minor is H moll?

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:56 pm
by ricardo
In english musical notes are A, B, C, D , E, F and G. (no H)

In german are different? I dont understand why some Bach music in B minor are H moll?

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:29 pm
by Kaeru Gaman
the german notation is

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  cis dis   fis gis ais  
  des  es   ges  as  b
 C   D   E F   G   A   H C
don't ask me why, I don't have any ethymologic information on this.

Bach was german, so his music is in H-moll, B-minor is just the english translation.

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:34 pm
by Dare
Maybe the B on his keyboard was broken?




(just kidding)

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:07 am
by ricardo
Kaeru Gaman wrote:the german notation is

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  cis dis   fis gis ais  
  des  es   ges  as  b
 C   D   E F   G   A   H C
don't ask me why, I don't have any ethymologic information on this.

Bach was german, so his music is in H-moll, B-minor is just the english translation.
So, there is no B in German for music notation?

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:12 am
by Kaeru Gaman
the B is the H with one b, same as A with one #,
on the piano the black key between A and H.
this one is called B.

so, if you have german music notated in B-moll, its Bb-minor.

it's just a different notation, where is the problem?

in other languages it's Do Re Mi Fa So La Si Do, they dont even have an A... ;)
and don't ask me, how it is notated in Chinese or on Bali.

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:15 am
by ricardo
I found the answer:


in German music notation the letter B designates B flat while the letter H, which is actually a deformation of a square B, designates B natural


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accidental_(music)

Thanks!

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:20 am
by Kaeru Gaman
so and what did I tell you? :roll:

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:26 am
by ricardo
Kaeru Gaman wrote: it's just a different notation, where is the problem?
No problem at all, was just curiosity why use a different letter for the bemol tone.

Was because i saw that some Bach music was H Moll and i dont understand why.

Thanks!

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:48 am
by WishMaster
I like our notes :D