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 Post subject: Free updates for life?
PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:11 am 
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I know this has been discussed a lot, but I just read my receipt email for PureBasic that I bought years ago, and it seems unlimited free updates were only ever promised to early adopters like myself:

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    Dear PureBasic new user,

    First thanks a lot to have registered the PureBasic programming langage.
We hope you will be happy with it for a long time. As you are in the first
to register, unlimited free updated and version for every OSes (now and
futures) are and will be free for you, just ask for them. Updates will be
availables on the PureBasic web site.

Does anyone else's receipt have this clause? Seems to me that Fred could charge for updates if he wanted for those who weren't the "first to register" (his words).


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:13 am 
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The mail has never been changed, I will do it now.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:16 am 
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That wasn't my intention. The idea was to show that you could legally and ethically charge for major updates for modern users, to generate more income from it (like you do for SpiderBasic).


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:38 am 
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The product is advertised as free lifetime upgrade on the website, so no I can't do that :)


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:24 pm 
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You could always take it off the website.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:19 pm 
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Many other applications offer free updates for the current version number.xx.yy.
When PB goes to v6.0.0, you must purchase a new or upgrade license. :wink:

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Fred could create a PB PRO version, which has new added features, and charge for updates to that. It wouldn't take much to add it... Just freeze the current 'lesser' PB where it is...


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I think PureBasic is already PRO and should stay that way.

If then only for very special libraries as AddONS

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Just create a forum where you can post your desired features with an offer to pay $x for them.
If several people want this feature or a sufficient amount of money has come together, it will surely be implemented.
Then everyone is happy and everyone gets something.

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Tenaja wrote:
Fred could create a PB PRO version, which has new added features ..//..

Support for ARM seems to be the perfect opportunity to offer an extended product with an alternative licensing model.


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My two-penneth is that if you download an updated version, why not send some dosh in appreciation? :)

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PB is awesome I like it very much, but I think one of the most valuable things is this forum.
Would be interesting if we are charged (yearly?) to get the privilege of write questions, while only reading keep free to anyone.
Also, veteran and expert users don't have to pay never, because they are the core of the forums.
I think this would be a good way to make PB more profitable to Fred & company :wink:


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:49 am 
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Fred wrote:
The mail has never been changed, I will do it now.


Fred, with all due respect, there are lots of little this about PureBasic that never were changed. Couldn't you perform a quality inspection to the lesser impressive features?

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Caronte3D wrote:
PB is awesome I like it very much, but I think one of the most valuable things is this forum.
Would be interesting if we are charged (yearly?) to get the privilege of write questions, while only reading keep free to anyone.
Also, veteran and expert users don't have to pay never, because they are the core of the forums.
I think this would be a good way to make PB more profitable to Fred & company :wink:



This is a terrible idea. The community would die overnight.
Knowledge is power, and speaking from the novice / hobbyist perspective. If I had to pay for the privilege of asking retarded questions, I would just as soon never use PB again, and force myself to learn something else.


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Just create a forum where you can post your desired features with an offer to pay $x for them.
If several people want this feature or a sufficient amount of money has come together, it will surely be implemented.
Then everyone is happy and everyone gets something.



This is the right approach, when it comes down to it.

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Zach wrote:
Saki wrote:
Just create a forum where you can post your desired features with an offer to pay $x for them.
If several people want this feature or a sufficient amount of money has come together, it will surely be implemented.
Then everyone is happy and everyone gets something.



This is the right approach, when it comes down to it.


From Fred in 2018 wrote:
We are reading all ideas/suggestions and pick from them for future features. That said, if you use PB as a living and want a specific feature implemented quickly, the bounty system could work for us. For example, you could submit your idea, and how much you want to put in it (others could add as well), and Timo, Comtois/Guillot (for 3D), or I could then pick it, do the dev and get the bounty. I dunno if Timo and others are interested in it, they will probably tell :). That said, the idea has to be accepted, we won't put in PB anything irrelevant, it has to be useful for as many people as possible.


Here are examples of things sponsored by individuals for the PB 5.70 LTS release:
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- HTTPRequest() and HTTPRequestMemory() to call REST api easily (sponsored by c-wayne)
- UseMySQLDatabase() which use the opensource libmariadb.dll (found in purebasic\compilers\ dir) and brings MySQL and MariaDB support natively to PureBasic ! (sponsored by Paul)

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